Date   

New Physics chair/planetarium director at Samford

James Moore
 

Hello, everyone!

This is to let you know that Dr. Don Olive has been named physics chair at Samford University. He will also be serving as the planetarium director. More importantly, he has also agreed to be our sponsor on campus!

Don has been very involved in local astronomy clubs in the past, so he is looking forward to being an actve part of BAS as well. Hopefully he will have the opportunity to make an appearance at our meeting this month.

In other news, the campus is still closed to outside groups. We have reassurances from both Dr. Olive and Dr. Hands that once campus reopens we will be welcome to resume meeting in the planetarium. Until then we'll continue to meet virtually.


Clear skies! -- James



Re: recent pic of M8

Robert Pitt
 

 

Hello Don:

I take dark frames with cooled astrocameras during day at the settings I will be using (temperature, binning, and sensitivity (if CMOS)) for a variety of exposure times. I am currently using 0oC and unit sensitivity and take darks for both bin 1 and bin 2 for several exposures from 10 sec to 5 minutes. I usually take 30 replicates at each setting for my dark library. It is recommended that these be repeated every 6 months or so. The dark frames are mainly used to remove amp glow and bad pixels. These are taken with the camera covered (hence “dark”).

 

Bias frames are taken at the same temperatures and binning as the photos. Again, 0oC and bin 1 and bin 2. These are also taken with the camera covered and at the shortest exposure duration available on the camera.

 

Flats are taken using a luminescent panel (can be home made with LED lights and foam board) during the day after the photo session. They can also be taken during dawn or dusk with several layers of white t-shirt material over the scope end. These need to be taken at the same camera orientation as during the photo session (to remove vignetting) and with the same filters (to remove dust molts). Also at same camera settings, but with exposures to result in about half saturation of the camera.

 

I take astroimages using multiple short exposures. I am still fighting tracking accuracy and satellites. I use the longest exposure possible for each sub that preserves round stars at 100% magnification. My last session (after a more careful polar alignment) allowed up to 3 minute subs. Near the celestial equator, I reduced them to 90 sec. I try for a total of about 1 hr total exposure for each subject, and combine the subs in Deep Sky Stacker. I am setting up a guide scope and guide camera to try to get up to 10 minute subs (narrow band filters require more light).

 

My current challenges I am trying to solve include better tracking (as noted above) and better focus. I have had little success with FocusMax so far and need to spend more time working on that. I am sure I will have many other issues crop up as I move along. Post processing is a hit-or-miss situation for me so far, but I am slowly developing a workflow. Some of the following web sites have helped be a lot with processing, but still have a ways to go yet!

 

Free stand-alone stacking programs:

 

For stacking astro images without any terrestrial components:

DeepSkyStacker (for PC) (http://deepskystacker.free.fr/english/index.html), which is what I use. It handles calibration files nicely (dark frames, flats, bias frames, etc.). Most Apple folks use Starry Landscape Stacker (below)

 

For stacking with foreground (landscape astrophotography, stacks the sky but not the ground):

Sequator (for PC) (https://sites.google.com/site/sequatorglobal/) and Starry Landscape Stacker (for Mac) (https://sites.google.com/site/starrylandscapestacker/home) (I have not used either recently). The following is a review/comparison of these two programs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-MCvbYj-hA

 

Most commercial astro imaging processing packages (from free to expensive) include stacking as part of their package. PixInsight is one example that is highly regarded, but complex (and not free). I use DeepSkyStacker and follow-up with PhotoShop. There are many available and others have their own favorites. Hopefully others will chime in with their suggestions and recommendations.

 

Some of my Favorite On-line Resources for Astrophotography:

Landscape astrophotography (mainly Milky Way with foreground), using DSLRs (or mirrorless) with camera lenses:

Adam Woodworth (especially his “Milky Way Editing: bringing out details recorded webinar” that is inexpensive and also has many good suggestions for processing). https://adamwoodworth.com/

 

Ian Norman, Lonely Speck (https://www.lonelyspeck.com/). Great info, especially for light polluted areas.

 

Astrophotography with DSLRs thru Telescopes:

Jerry Lodriguss (https://astropix.com/index.html). Free tutorials and low cost books. Planetary and deep sky object imaging guides.

 

Ron Wodaski (New Astronomy Press) (http://www.newastro.com). One of the original books, but still highly relevant.

 

Astrophotography with Cooled Astrocameras thru Telescopes:

Trevor at AstroBackyard.com (https://www.youtube.com/c/AstroBackyard/featured). My favorite site for astroimaging processing and reviews.

 

Dylan O’Donnel at StarStuff (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51K12gEi0Yo&feature=emb_rel_pause). Many interesting topics.

 

Adam Block (https://adamblockstudios.com/). Advanced tutorials, stressing PixInsignt

 

Have fun and don’t get too frustrated!

Regards,
Bob

 

 

Robert Pitt, Ph.D., P.E., BCEE, D.WRE

Emeritus Cudworth Professor of Urban Water Systems

Department of Civil, Construction, and Environmental Engineering

The University of Alabama

Tuscaloosa, AL 35487

Rpitt at eng dot ua dot edu

http://unix.eng.ua.edu/~rpitt/

 

 

 

From: main@bas-astro.groups.io <main@bas-astro.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Waters
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2020 09:26 AM
To: main@bas-astro.groups.io
Subject: Re: [bas-astro] recent pic of M8

 

Bob,
Please add details on subs, flats, etc., as I am trying to learn more and seeing examples is a big help - or email me directly.
Which stacking program? Which processing program(s)?

Thanks,
Don


Re: recent pic of M8

Robert Pitt
 

Thanks Myron. I was happy to see the extent of the outer region. Hopefully I can keep working on this and get a few more hours on the silicon!

Regards,

Bob

 

From: main@bas-astro.groups.io <main@bas-astro.groups.io> On Behalf Of Myron Wasiuta
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2020 07:53 AM
To: main@bas-astro.groups.io
Subject: Re: [bas-astro] recent pic of M8

 

Hello Bob,

Nonetheless a very interesting and impressive image. Youve really captured the faint outer tendrils well!

Dr. Myron Wasiuta

President- MSRO Science, Inc

Director- Mark Slade Remote Observatory 

Wilderness, VA USA

 



On Aug 31, 2020, at 11:19 PM, Robert Pitt <rpittal@...> wrote:



I took this a couple of weeks ago with my Hyperion 12.5/8 using a Triad quad narrow band filter, and just did the flats today. 40 one-minute exposures stacked with a ZWO6200 bin2. Unfortunately, pretty low in my backyard and many of the subs were through tree branches….

Regards,

Bob

 

Robert Pitt, Ph.D., P.E., BCEE, D.WRE

Emeritus Cudworth Professor of Urban Water Systems

Department of Civil, Construction, and Environmental Engineering

The University of Alabama

Tuscaloosa, AL 35487

Rpitt at eng dot ua dot edu

http://unix.eng.ua.edu/~rpitt/

 

<lagoon small.jpg>


Re: recent pic of M8

Robert Pitt
 

Thanks John. It is definitely low in the sky and foreseeable clouds don’t make it any easier. Planet imaging is a whole new ballgame, for sure!

Regards,

Bob

 

From: main@bas-astro.groups.io <main@bas-astro.groups.io> On Behalf Of John via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2020 08:09 AM
To: main@bas-astro.groups.io; Myron Wasiuta <mwasiuta@...>
Subject: Re: [bas-astro] recent pic of M8

 

Very nice!

 

I've been trying for weeks now to get a decent window in the clouds to image the Lagoon myself.  So far, I have had no luck.  I did yet my very first ever attempts at video frame stacking on Jupiter and Saturn.  They turned out ok, but I've got a lot of room for improvement.

 

John



 

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 7:53 AM, Myron Wasiuta

<mwasiuta@...> wrote:

Hello Bob,

Nonetheless a very interesting and impressive image. Youve really captured the faint outer tendrils well!

Dr. Myron Wasiuta

President- MSRO Science, Inc

Director- Mark Slade Remote Observatory 

Wilderness, VA USA

 



On Aug 31, 2020, at 11:19 PM, Robert Pitt <rpittal@...> wrote:



I took this a couple of weeks ago with my Hyperion 12.5/8 using a Triad quad narrow band filter, and just did the flats today. 40 one-minute exposures stacked with a ZWO6200 bin2. Unfortunately, pretty low in my backyard and many of the subs were through tree branches….

Regards,

Bob

 

Robert Pitt, Ph.D., P.E., BCEE, D.WRE

Emeritus Cudworth Professor of Urban Water Systems

Department of Civil, Construction, and Environmental Engineering

The University of Alabama

Tuscaloosa, AL 35487

Rpitt at eng dot ua dot edu

http://unix.eng.ua.edu/~rpitt/

 

<lagoon small.jpg>


Re: recent pic of M8

Don Waters
 

Bob,
Please add details on subs, flats, etc., as I am trying to learn more and seeing examples is a big help - or email me directly.
Which stacking program? Which processing program(s)?

Thanks,
Don


Re: recent pic of M8

John
 

Very nice!

I've been trying for weeks now to get a decent window in the clouds to image the Lagoon myself.  So far, I have had no luck.  I did yet my very first ever attempts at video frame stacking on Jupiter and Saturn.  They turned out ok, but I've got a lot of room for improvement.

John





On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 7:53 AM, Myron Wasiuta
<mwasiuta@...> wrote:
Hello Bob,
Nonetheless a very interesting and impressive image. Youve really captured the faint outer tendrils well!

Dr. Myron Wasiuta
President- MSRO Science, Inc
Director- Mark Slade Remote Observatory 
Wilderness, VA USA


On Aug 31, 2020, at 11:19 PM, Robert Pitt <rpittal@...> wrote:



I took this a couple of weeks ago with my Hyperion 12.5/8 using a Triad quad narrow band filter, and just did the flats today. 40 one-minute exposures stacked with a ZWO6200 bin2. Unfortunately, pretty low in my backyard and many of the subs were through tree branches….

Regards,

Bob

 

Robert Pitt, Ph.D., P.E., BCEE, D.WRE

Emeritus Cudworth Professor of Urban Water Systems

Department of Civil, Construction, and Environmental Engineering

The University of Alabama

Tuscaloosa, AL 35487

Rpitt at eng dot ua dot edu

http://unix.eng.ua.edu/~rpitt/

 

<lagoon small.jpg>


Re: recent pic of M8

Myron Wasiuta
 

Hello Bob,
Nonetheless a very interesting and impressive image. Youve really captured the faint outer tendrils well!

Dr. Myron Wasiuta
President- MSRO Science, Inc
Director- Mark Slade Remote Observatory 
Wilderness, VA USA


On Aug 31, 2020, at 11:19 PM, Robert Pitt <rpittal@...> wrote:



I took this a couple of weeks ago with my Hyperion 12.5/8 using a Triad quad narrow band filter, and just did the flats today. 40 one-minute exposures stacked with a ZWO6200 bin2. Unfortunately, pretty low in my backyard and many of the subs were through tree branches….

Regards,

Bob

 

Robert Pitt, Ph.D., P.E., BCEE, D.WRE

Emeritus Cudworth Professor of Urban Water Systems

Department of Civil, Construction, and Environmental Engineering

The University of Alabama

Tuscaloosa, AL 35487

Rpitt at eng dot ua dot edu

http://unix.eng.ua.edu/~rpitt/

 

<lagoon small.jpg>


recent pic of M8

Robert Pitt
 

I took this a couple of weeks ago with my Hyperion 12.5/8 using a Triad quad narrow band filter, and just did the flats today. 40 one-minute exposures stacked with a ZWO6200 bin2. Unfortunately, pretty low in my backyard and many of the subs were through tree branches….

Regards,

Bob

 

Robert Pitt, Ph.D., P.E., BCEE, D.WRE

Emeritus Cudworth Professor of Urban Water Systems

Department of Civil, Construction, and Environmental Engineering

The University of Alabama

Tuscaloosa, AL 35487

Rpitt at eng dot ua dot edu

http://unix.eng.ua.edu/~rpitt/

 


Re: Sad news.

Robert Pitt
 

Wouldn’t be bad if they would place them on long and lat lines and label them….

 

From: main@bas-astro.groups.io <main@bas-astro.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyra, Howard R (GE Healthcare)
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 03:25 PM
To: main@bas-astro.groups.io
Subject: Re: [bas-astro] Sad news.

 

We need to talk to our club rocket boys and work out some ......... as Biden would say, all heck u know what I mean.

🥴



On Aug 27, 2020, at 2:05 PM, James Moore via groups.io <jasbmoore@...> wrote:

If I remember correctly, there are at least two other companies that will building networks, so there will definitely be some "overbuild". SpaceX is (belatedly) working with the astronomy community to minimize their "footprint", but I don't know how sincere they are about it. 

The last time I read up on this, the indication was that there would always be three of the Starlink satellites visible from your location at any given time -- no matter where you are. *sigh* 


Re: Sad news.

Tyra, Howard R (GE Healthcare)
 

We need to talk to our club rocket boys and work out some ......... as Biden would say, all heck u know what I mean.
🥴


On Aug 27, 2020, at 2:05 PM, James Moore via groups.io <jasbmoore@...> wrote:

If I remember correctly, there are at least two other companies that will building networks, so there will definitely be some "overbuild". SpaceX is (belatedly) working with the astronomy community to minimize their "footprint", but I don't know how sincere they are about it. 

The last time I read up on this, the indication was that there would always be three of the Starlink satellites visible from your location at any given time -- no matter where you are. *sigh* 


Re: Sad news.

James Moore
 

If I remember correctly, there are at least two other companies that will building networks, so there will definitely be some "overbuild". SpaceX is (belatedly) working with the astronomy community to minimize their "footprint", but I don't know how sincere they are about it. 

The last time I read up on this, the indication was that there would always be three of the Starlink satellites visible from your location at any given time -- no matter where you are. *sigh* 


Sad news.

Sterling DeRamus
 

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/satellite-megaconstellations-could-have-extreme-impact-astronomy-report-finds-n1238178

Looks like more satellites are going to be launched by both Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk. I wish there was a way to stop this. 


Re: 8 inch Meade found

David Isbell <disbell72@...>
 

Hi Wes, are you available tomorrow, Thursday? I live in the Leeds area but can meet you somewhere. David 

On Aug 25, 2020, at 17:48, Robby Flick <robbyflick@...> wrote:

 Can’t wait til you fix it Wes and I can borrow it. Thanks buddy.

On Aug 25, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Robby Flick via groups.io <robbyflick@...> wrote:

Lol yep


On Aug 25, 2020, at 5:38 PM, Wes Donahoo <yourdominospizza@...> wrote:

Absolutely. Just let me know when and where.

Wes
205-908-8717

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 1:25 PM David Isbell <disbell72@...> wrote:
Hey Wes, that’s great! I’m out of town today. Do you think we could meet one day before this weekend? I might be out of town Sat through Monday. David 404-436-7378

On Aug 25, 2020, at 14:12, Wes Donahoo <yourdominospizza@...> wrote:


I'm totally interested. I'll be more than happy to get it working for others to use also 

Thanks,
Wes


On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 11:55 PM Sterling DeRamus <sterling.deramus@...> wrote:
David Isbell found the clubs older 8 inch Meade.  The electronics apparently are shot, but maybe reparable.  The optics are great.

Let us know if anyone is interested.








Re: 8 inch Meade found

Robby Flick <robbyflick@...>
 

Can’t wait til you fix it Wes and I can borrow it. Thanks buddy.

On Aug 25, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Robby Flick via groups.io <robbyflick@...> wrote:

Lol yep


On Aug 25, 2020, at 5:38 PM, Wes Donahoo <yourdominospizza@...> wrote:

Absolutely. Just let me know when and where.

Wes
205-908-8717

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 1:25 PM David Isbell <disbell72@...> wrote:
Hey Wes, that’s great! I’m out of town today. Do you think we could meet one day before this weekend? I might be out of town Sat through Monday. David 404-436-7378

On Aug 25, 2020, at 14:12, Wes Donahoo <yourdominospizza@...> wrote:


I'm totally interested. I'll be more than happy to get it working for others to use also 

Thanks,
Wes


On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 11:55 PM Sterling DeRamus <sterling.deramus@...> wrote:
David Isbell found the clubs older 8 inch Meade.  The electronics apparently are shot, but maybe reparable.  The optics are great.

Let us know if anyone is interested.








I'm starting to regret

Robby Flick <robbyflick@...>
 

I’m starting to think this is just a group of guys that are a click to do favors for just one another that have been here for awhile.


Re: 8 inch Meade found

Robby Flick <robbyflick@...>
 

Lol yep


On Aug 25, 2020, at 5:38 PM, Wes Donahoo <yourdominospizza@...> wrote:

Absolutely. Just let me know when and where.

Wes
205-908-8717

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 1:25 PM David Isbell <disbell72@...> wrote:
Hey Wes, that’s great! I’m out of town today. Do you think we could meet one day before this weekend? I might be out of town Sat through Monday. David 404-436-7378

On Aug 25, 2020, at 14:12, Wes Donahoo <yourdominospizza@...> wrote:


I'm totally interested. I'll be more than happy to get it working for others to use also 

Thanks,
Wes


On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 11:55 PM Sterling DeRamus <sterling.deramus@...> wrote:
David Isbell found the clubs older 8 inch Meade.  The electronics apparently are shot, but maybe reparable.  The optics are great.

Let us know if anyone is interested.







Re: 8 inch Meade found

Wes Donahoo
 

Absolutely. Just let me know when and where.

Wes
205-908-8717

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 1:25 PM David Isbell <disbell72@...> wrote:
Hey Wes, that’s great! I’m out of town today. Do you think we could meet one day before this weekend? I might be out of town Sat through Monday. David 404-436-7378

On Aug 25, 2020, at 14:12, Wes Donahoo <yourdominospizza@...> wrote:


I'm totally interested. I'll be more than happy to get it working for others to use also 

Thanks,
Wes


On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 11:55 PM Sterling DeRamus <sterling.deramus@...> wrote:
David Isbell found the clubs older 8 inch Meade.  The electronics apparently are shot, but maybe reparable.  The optics are great.

Let us know if anyone is interested.




Re: 8 inch Meade found

Robby Flick <robbyflick@...>
 

I mean Wes.. Sorry

On Aug 25, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Robby Flick via groups.io <robbyflick@...> wrote:

Nevermind I guess Gus got it

On Aug 25, 2020, at 5:04 PM, Robby Flick via groups.io <robbyflick@...> wrote:

I have an old 8” Meade motorized stand if no one is interested.


On Aug 25, 2020, at 1:25 PM, David Isbell <disbell72@...> wrote:

Hey Wes, that’s great! I’m out of town today. Do you think we could meet one day before this weekend? I might be out of town Sat through Monday. David 404-436-7378

On Aug 25, 2020, at 14:12, Wes Donahoo <yourdominospizza@...> wrote:


I'm totally interested. I'll be more than happy to get it working for others to use also 

Thanks,
Wes


On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 11:55 PM Sterling DeRamus <sterling.deramus@...> wrote:
David Isbell found the clubs older 8 inch Meade.  The electronics apparently are shot, but maybe reparable.  The optics are great.

Let us know if anyone is interested.







Re: 8 inch Meade found

Robby Flick <robbyflick@...>
 

Nevermind I guess Gus got it

On Aug 25, 2020, at 5:04 PM, Robby Flick via groups.io <robbyflick@...> wrote:

I have an old 8” Meade motorized stand if no one is interested.


On Aug 25, 2020, at 1:25 PM, David Isbell <disbell72@...> wrote:

Hey Wes, that’s great! I’m out of town today. Do you think we could meet one day before this weekend? I might be out of town Sat through Monday. David 404-436-7378

On Aug 25, 2020, at 14:12, Wes Donahoo <yourdominospizza@...> wrote:


I'm totally interested. I'll be more than happy to get it working for others to use also 

Thanks,
Wes


On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 11:55 PM Sterling DeRamus <sterling.deramus@...> wrote:
David Isbell found the clubs older 8 inch Meade.  The electronics apparently are shot, but maybe reparable.  The optics are great.

Let us know if anyone is interested.






Re: 8 inch Meade found

Robby Flick <robbyflick@...>
 

I have an old 8” Meade motorized stand if no one is interested.


On Aug 25, 2020, at 1:25 PM, David Isbell <disbell72@...> wrote:

Hey Wes, that’s great! I’m out of town today. Do you think we could meet one day before this weekend? I might be out of town Sat through Monday. David 404-436-7378

On Aug 25, 2020, at 14:12, Wes Donahoo <yourdominospizza@...> wrote:


I'm totally interested. I'll be more than happy to get it working for others to use also 

Thanks,
Wes


On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 11:55 PM Sterling DeRamus <sterling.deramus@...> wrote:
David Isbell found the clubs older 8 inch Meade.  The electronics apparently are shot, but maybe reparable.  The optics are great.

Let us know if anyone is interested.